tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post6302320345330682618..comments2023-04-06T06:33:49.325-07:00Comments on Conquered by Love: Will Pope Francis Beatify Apostate Fr. Arrupe?TTChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-83706448221175782512018-07-16T14:40:55.871-07:002018-07-16T14:40:55.871-07:00I'm pretty close with St. John Paul II. Know ...I'm pretty close with St. John Paul II. Know a lot about him, his writings, his papacy, his powers beyond the grave. He's one of the greatest (and most powerful) saints who ever lived. Paul VI, I'm not that familiar with--he did write Humanae Vitae, so I think his critics are likely mistaken. TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-55957187916940072018-07-16T12:53:12.791-07:002018-07-16T12:53:12.791-07:00If Paul VI can be "canonized" so can Arr...If Paul VI can be "canonized" so can Arrupe or anyone, especially if they are "spirit" of V2 or modernist perhaps. You can tell that I can no longer accept that modern false church "canonizations" are infallible. Political agendas.M. Prodigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598092468839468735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-78282233622426285512018-07-15T19:16:58.322-07:002018-07-15T19:16:58.322-07:00"My own feeling is, beatifying Arrupe or inst..."My own feeling is, beatifying Arrupe or instituting invalid ordinations of women are actions that have to directly come from Pope Francis hand."<br /><br />My own feeling is that when Pope Francis does those things you will still be making excuses for your own heresy. Really, if J23 & JP2 are saints, why not P6 and Arrupe too. Hell, why not Martin Luther (cause we are talking about demons in hell)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-13899039215938059112018-07-15T16:07:57.294-07:002018-07-15T16:07:57.294-07:00I don't have the religious credentials, having...I don't have the religious credentials, having only gone to Catholic Schools through 8th grade and having never taken a course that was explicitly Catholic after those days. But, what comes out of Bergoglio's sycophants' teachings is not consistent with what I was taught in those first eight grades.<br /><br />I have never heard of Father Arrupe. Nor do I want to.<br /><br /><br />Karl<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-24421620378417086922018-07-15T11:53:27.844-07:002018-07-15T11:53:27.844-07:00Oakes, I wholeheartedly agree the content is heret...Oakes, I wholeheartedly agree the content is heretical. But IMO, its a product of a synod and he claims he didn't see or read the paragraphs t hat contain heresy. It was done at arms length, making it a lot harder to pin it directly on him. Of course he's approved it, is responsible for the content, has refused to correct it, thanked people for heretical interpretations-- but its been a lot of denying, lying and innuendo and carrying its fruit out is done layers and layers underneath him. <br /><br /><br />It's the same old chestnut the wolves have been using for decades-- you hire heretics to teach and then pretend the heresy being taught has nothing to do with you--you are faithful! The same sleazeball lying tactics used in nearly every chancery and parish in the USA. Absolutely demonic.<br /><br /><br />My own feeling is, beatifying Arrupe or instituting invalid ordinations of women are actions that have to directly come from Pope Francis hand. <br /><br /><br />Thoughts?TTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738875888053745269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1710582377178994199.post-10424491391928445822018-07-15T08:30:52.821-07:002018-07-15T08:30:52.821-07:00"All the intemperate off-the-cuff sophomoric ..."All the intemperate off-the-cuff sophomoric and bad theology our families and salvation have been burdened with during this papacy, none of it has crossed the lines of formal heresy."<br /><br />I'm curious as to your reasoning. My understanding of "formal" heresy is that it has nothing to do with where you say it or how you say it, but rather whether you actually mean it, have been given a decent interval to change your mind after having it explained to you, know it to be heresy, etc.<br /><br />My own view is that, among other things, some of the statements in Amoris Laetitia, coupled with the dubia (which implicitly pointed out their heretical nature), coupled with the reaction/non-reaction of Bergoglio and his men to the dubia, coupled with subsequent words and actions such as citing with approval the interpretation of the Argentinian bishops constitutes formal heresy. That it hasn't yet been explicitly recognized as such by some official body is technically irrelevant.<br /><br />How would you respond to that? Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.com